Christianity Proclaimed a Threat to Society

by John Greene

“Do not love the decoration of the world, nor that which is in the world. When any man loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. Because all that is in the world, the desire of the flesh, and the desire of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passes away, and the desires of the world. But the one agreeing with Will of Elohim endures into the eternal.” – 1 John 2:15-17, direct translation

attitude is everything

He sure looks more extreme than I do!

‘Christian pollsters’ have recently announced that millions of adults in the United States consider those involved with religion, faith and Christianity to be extremists. This follows last years’ revelation that a majority of those in the United States believed that they were Christians. Is this simply that when looking at others, that every one else is extreme? Or is this reflected in what is said to be the growing view that Christianity is now viewed as irrelevant? Is this sentiment quickly morphing into the idea that Christianity is bad for national culture? Is this momentary uproar in the press much ado about nothing, perhaps a plot to sell a few books? Why did the authors open their commentary with economic descriptions to lay out their claims? A closer look gives us some insights on some of these questions. (John 15:19, 17:15-18, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 14-18, 7:1 ; “Is the Bible Losing Influence in the United States?“; “The Magi of this Age“; “YHWH’s Track of Righteousness“)

jihadHaving seen so much extremism by jihadists, the court of public opinion in the United States seems to be developing a quickly emerging view about what extremism is and what extremism looks like. Keep in mind that extremism typically belongs to someone else, which tells you where so many professed Christians are in their faith – pretty much the same place as the world. Yet, based on past polls, around 25% of those living in the United States are atheist, agnostic or not affiliated with any religion. The pollsters claim that nine out of ten respondents that were not affiliated with a religion believe that being religiously extreme is a threat to society. 45% of non-religious adults in the US now are said to believe that Christianity is extremist. 14% disagree with the idea that Christianity is extremist. 41% disagree with this only somewhat, confusing an easy understanding of the results. Negative perceptions in the United States are said to be rising, even as persecution is rising up in so many places in the world. Even then, we know that not all that call themselves Christians are the same or believe the same. (“‘Leaders of Men’ Plot Against ‘Christian Infidels’“; “Leaders & the Antichrist Spirit of Wisdom“; “Culture: Prompting Falsehood Through the Lie

A national majority that define themselves as Christian were tapped on what they consider to be extreme religious behavior, of course, based on the view that those being interviewed are not extreme. Scripture says this about what is to be the mind of a Christian:

“I exhort you truly brothers, through the compassion of Elohim, provide your bodies a living sacrifice, set apart, in full agreement to Elohim, your reasonable service. So do not be conformed to the age, but to the contrary, transformed in the renewing of your mind. You must test what is beneficial, even fully agreeable and complete to the Will of Elohim.” – Romans 12:1-2, direct translation

“When we agree with righteousness as to our sins, He is trustworthy and right to forgive the sin, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.“ – 1 John 1:9, direct translation

bible-markerKeep these scriptures in mind as you read on. If you don’t know what righteousness actually is per scripture, please consult this link. The pollsters then asked another group, said to be a random and representative sample of what all US adults thought about what behaviors appeared to be extreme in the court of public opinion based on 4 categories listed below. (“The Modern Life Culture Crisis“; “Are You a Christian First or Last?“)

checkmark-smallThese actions were widely considered to be extreme by more than 80% (roughly 4 in 5) of adults in the United States:

– using religion to justify violence,
– refusing standard medical care for their children,
– refusing to serve someone because a customer’s lifestyle conflicts with their beliefs.

handing-money(The second bullet assumes what standard care is, so is highly arbitrary. The last bullet point would be more accurately phrased through the mindset of objecting through conscience, refusing to cooperate with what conflicts with belief rather than refusing to serve a customer because of lifestyle. If personal lifestyle never came up in this context, it would never be questioned in the world of commerce! Yet these ‘Christian pollsters’ still phrased their survey as they did.)

checkmark-smallThese actions were considered extreme by at least half, but less than 80% of US adults:

– demonstrating outside an organization they consider immoral,
– preaching a religious message in a public place,
– attempting to convert others to their faith,
– teaching their children that sexual relationships between people of the same sex is morally wrong,
– distributing religious material door-to-door,
– praying aloud in public for a stranger,
– believing that sexual relationships between people of the same sex are morally wrong,
– protesting government policies that conflict with their religion.

checkmark-smallThese actions were considered very or somewhat extreme by 20% to 49% (at least 1 in 5) of US adult respondents:

– praying in a special language, known as speaking in tongues,
– quitting a good-paying job to pursue mission work in another country,
– wearing special clothes or head coverings for religious observance,
– adhering to special dietary restrictions for religious reasons,
– fasting or abstaining from food for a period of time,
waiting until marriage to have sex.

checkmark-smallThese actions were considered to be very or somewhat extremist by 6% to 19% of US adults questioned:

– reading the Qu’ran silently in a public place,
– reading the Bible silently in a public place,
– regularly tithing or donating to a religious community,
– abstaining from alcohol or tobacco for religious reasons,
– attending church, synagogue, or temple on a weekly basis,
– volunteering to help people in need.*

thumbs upEvangelical Christians (nearly 7% of the US population) as defined by the pollsters were much less likely to perceive extremist behavior (obviously because they exhibit similar behaviors). However, even these are said to believe that religiously motivated violence, refusing medical attention for children, wearing special clothing and reading the Qu’ran in public are extremist behaviors. The bias is apparent in the nation and in the pollsters. A wide range of behaviors and beliefs are said to be extremist by large numbers of the population in the States. Then the obvious conclusion is drawn. The difference between evangelicals and skeptics is noted as an extreme gap. That’s hardly a shock. (“The Great Apostasy of Unrighteousness“; “What is Evil? The Jealousy of Nations & Skeptics“; “Disciples & the Occult of the World“; “The Image & Mark of the Beast System“; “Masks & the Real Me“; “Porneia: Conduct of Disciples in the Sexual Realm“)

shockedWhat’s more shocking is what isn’t said by anyone, but simply overlooked. Being a Christian is supposed to be extreme to the world, just as Yahshua [Jesus] was extreme in the eyes of the mainstream during His earthly ministry. His disciples were to be no part of this world. Discipleship would separate many rather than unite. The heart condition of many wouldn’t allow for agreement with Yahshua [Jesus] or scripture, setting them against Elohim [‘God’, YHWH]. Consider too why Yahshua [Jesus] the Messiah was condemned to death and crucified. He stood for another Kingdom! His views alarmed those that wanted or held that authority for themselves. It still does! In a world full of religious appearances, even the translation of scripture has been modified to tell that same story about vying for authority. Authority of the world wants to steal the Authority of the Almighty, to set up a middleman between ‘heaven and earth’, or eliminate the Almighty altogether. This conclusion about authority in the world can easily be drawn from a mainstream knowledge of history. (Galatians 5:16; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Titus 2:14; 1 Peter 2:8-9  ;”Christians, Tyranny & the Man of Lawlessness“; “Incentives of Deception“; “Filling Your Life with Truth Instead of Deception“; “Gods in Their Own Minds“; “Millenniums of Human Exploitation“)

church deceptionThese same authorities have pretended to take what is ‘just’ and ‘right’ from scripture, yet what has been taken is merely a counterfeit of scripture and counter to agreement with YHWH and Messiah. Worldly authority has accomplished this most often by a technique known as ‘normalizing’. Scripture calls this lawlessness and antichrist. These authorities do not agree with the YHWH Almighty, yet how many professed Christians see themselves in agreement with scripture, even when they are not? (“Breaking Strongholds of False Authority“; “Understanding Sin“; “Justice & Righteousness“; “The Distortion of the Family & the Perversion of Justice“; “Unrighteous Chaff Set To Destruction“)

“Not all that say to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ enter into the purpose of the Kingdom of Heaven. To the contrary, he that yields the purpose of My Father in Heaven. Many say to Me in that Day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and in Your Name cast out devils and in Your Name yielded many miracles? Then at that time I will agree with the authority of Heaven, them I never knew. You! Depart from Me ministers of wickedness.” – Matthew 7:21-23, direct translation

To read more of my observations on this survey, please go to the end of this article.

*Barna Group – August 2015

“For YAHWEH so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,
that everyone believing into Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
John 3:16, HRB
Heavenly Father,
Thank you for sending the Messiah, your only begotten Son to be my Savior. I believe in Him and have made this belief the center of my life. Because of this, by faith I have everlasting life! Thank you! I repent of my sins and of my past, freely admitting that I have fallen short of Your righteousness. I look fully forward to you in my life and commit my life to You. Thank You YHWH, my Heavenly Father for setting me free in the name of your Son Yahshua [Jesus]. May it be as you have promised!
genuine-articleYou will never enjoy true freedom through the Messiah and power of the Holy Spirit unless you read and absorb the Bible in prayer and trust. You will never know this freedom until you experience it for yourself. Get to know your Heavenly Father, His Son and allow the Holy Spirit to work in your life. The Holy Spirit is your teacher, your Holy Counselor that lives in you to help you learn about the truth of YHWH and His spiritual gifts.
Satan does not want you to have the excellence of YHWH in your life. People pray for protection and want to be taken care of, but often do little in growing close to Him. The world, your husband, your wife, your family, your government do not build your trust in YHWH or free you from spiritual bondage. Your church or your pastor cannot save you. Education, power and money will not free you, but only the Word of your Heavenly Father. Salvation is a daily walk, an act of love for yourself and for those around you, not a one-time event that centers only on you. Make the Word of YHWH your own, your very life!
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The name Yahshua [Y’shua] is an original language name for Jesus.
He is often referred to simply as the Messiah or Master.
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My Observations of the Poll Findings

broken-faithIt would seem that some pollsters, writers and others continue to beat the drum that Christianity is increasingly irrelevant as church involvement declines. They hope to raise the alarm, to create a gathering of support. Yet, all of these cultural actions were foretold in scripture. It’s as if the fulfillment of Bible prophecy that most of them claim to believe is somehow a bad thing, or as if Christian leaders were expecting to overcome scripture while fashioning it for personal agenda, or perhaps they simply didn’t believe scripture anyway. Some appear to be stubbornly expecting revival without repentance, with lives full of idolatry, and without the Counselor as the Source of change. In other words, the solution is always presented through the flesh instead of the spirit. That is a fatal flaw in man’s religion.

The article by the pollsters emphasizes what the group of unaffiliated adults said they believed over what the rest of the population was represented to have believed, using those results to grab attention. This has likely been done with idea of creating a sensation to spotlight a crisis. The advertising community of the world do it all the time.

thirst-desert-1Based on what I could determine, combining both polls as one could easily skew the data they collected, especially based on the way they described their work. The pollsters placed a front-page graphic showing that 75% of adults believed that religious extremism is a threat to society, after advertising that 90% of the first group of those that were ‘faith-challenged’ believed the same. This is a bait-and-switch tactics of advertising that even professed Christians are stooping to. The two groups are not identical in perception, but this was not considered in the words used, even though the pollsters attempted to normalize the questions asked. The pollsters ignored the reality extremism as a definition always belongs to someone else. For example, few professed Christians judge themselves the same way as they do their compatriots that they ‘agree with’. I’ve witnessed this time and time again whether I wanted to see it or not. That is what division, mistrust and worldliness does. The other elephant in the room is that non-affiliated persons don’t possess ‘faith’. Their ‘faith’ is simply different, placed elsewhere. Apparently, this is roundly ignored or considered beyond the reach of this topic.

money out of thin airWe can only assume that both groups were actually asked the same questions using the same methodology, with the same understandings by the respondents. If both groups were not treated identically, the combined results are irrelevant and hypothetical. They might as well write fiction. Their charts and public findings don’t appear to make the grade in connecting both groups based on what the authors have written. They’ve also combined information based on ‘somewhat’ or ‘very’, which does not clarify their findings. Based on my read on things, most of this article and publicity is likely designed to pick up lagging book sales and to spur interest in the topic, with a larger agenda in mind. Too bad. We might just as well be watching a commercial on television or political propaganda.

Below is a video example of normalizing:

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